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Saturday, February 27, 2010
Tom Coburn -- "Federal and state governments already control 60 percent of health care."
That's key: "Federal and state governments already control 60 percent of health care. If more government spending and control was the answer we could have fixed health care long ago." All the rest is commentary.Hello, I’m Dr. Tom Coburn, a practicing physician from Oklahoma and a member of the United States Senate.[....]
The American people have rejected the majority’s plan for good reason. Their plan includes half a trillion dollars in new tax increases, a half a trillion dollars in cuts to Medicare, job-killing penalties for employers, taxpayer funded abortion and new boards that will ration care to American citizens. At its core, their plan continues a government-centered approach that has made health care more expensive. Federal and state governments already control 60 percent of health care. If more government spending and control was the answer we could have fixed health care long ago.
Republicans in Congress have a different vision for reform. We have put forward several proposals that lay out a common sense step-by-step path to reform. Our solutions are patient-centered, not government-centered. We believe in expanding options, not government; increasing access, not taxes; and reducing costs, not quality. Most importantly, we believe that no one has the right to step between you and your doctor.
Friday, February 26, 2010
Biased Biasness... Liberal Media Spin
....Actually, it's not a fact even though people from President Obama to filmmaker Michael Moore have claimed it was so.The Census Bureau reported 45.6 million uninsured people in 2007, but the numbers include nearly 10 million non-citizens and millions who may choose not to have insurance, and millions more who should be able to afford insurance without government assistance.The Business & Media Institute broke down the uninsured statistics in 2007 and found details from the Census Bureau commonly ignored by the news media:
- 10 million uninsured non-citizens
- More than 17 million of the uninsured make at least $50,000 per year
- 8.4 million made $50,000 to $74,999 per year and 9.1 million made $75,000 or more.Another segment of the uninsured, 25 percent, according to the liberal Urban Institute already qualifies for government health insurance programs. Other groups have also found that many of the uninsured are temporarily without coverage due to job changes.Even the liberal Kaiser Family Foundation puts the number of chronically uninsured between 8.2 and 13.9 million people.
God Blessed Racism Video and Quotes (wanted it all in one place for my use)
"How many books of Cones have you read!?"
This is the $ quote from the interview above with Obama's past pastor . So I did. Could you imagine if McCain or Bush went to a church for twenty years headed by a pastor whom -- a) brought you to your faith, b) married you and your wife, c) baptized your kids, and was d) on your campaign staff -- sold hitler's Mein Kampf in the church's bookstore. Not only that but on national television recommended this same book? We would never hear the end of it. Never. In fact, this fictitious person would never make it on a ballot. 
"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew" ~ Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf
- The goal of black theology is the destruction of everything white, so that blacks can be liberated from alien gods. (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) A Black Theology of Liberation, James Cone, p.62
- White religionists are not capable of perceiving the blackness of God, because their satanic whiteness is a denial of the very essence of divinity. That is why whites are finding and will continue to find the black experience a disturbing reality. (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) A Black Theology of Liberation, James Cone, p.64
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"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord" ~ Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf
- There is no place in black theology for a colorless God in a society where human beings suffer precisely because of their color. The black theologian must reject any conception of God which stifles black self-determination by picturing God as a God of all peoples. (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) A Black Theology of Liberation, James Cone, p.63
- Christianity is not alien to Black Power, Christianity is Black Power. (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) Black Theology & Black Power, James Cone, p.38
- In contrast to this racist view of God, black theology proclaims God's blackness. Those who want to know who God is and what God is doing must know who black persons are and what they are doing. (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) A Black Theology of Liberation, James Cone, p.65
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"The [Nazi party] should not become a constable of public opinion, but must dominate it. It must not become a servant of the masses, but their master!" ~ Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf
- These new theologians of the Third World argue that Christians [liberation theology accepting Christians] should not shun violence but should initiate it... (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) Black Theology & Black Power, James Cone, p.32
- It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it. (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) Black Theology & Black Power, James Cone, p.14
- It is this fact that makes all white churches anti-Christian in their essence. To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people! (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) Black Theology & Black Power, James Cone, p.151
- It [black liberation theology] is dangerous because the true prophet of the gospel of God must become both "anti-Christian" and "unpatriotic.".... Because whiteness by its very nature is against blackness, the black prophet is a prophet of national doom. He proclaims the end of the American Way,... (Book from Obamas Churchs bookstore) A Black Theology of Liberation, James Cone, p.55-56
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(Below are quotes from James H. Cone, A Black Theology of Liberation ~ a book sold in Obama's church's bookstore the entire 20-years he attended.)
"It is dangerous because the true prophet of the gospel of God  must become both 'anti-Christian' and 'unpatriotic.' (55) …. Because  whiteness by its very nature is against blackness, the black prophet is a  prophet of national doom. He proclaims the end of the 'American  Way...'" (56 
"But this does not mean that religion is irrelevant altogether;  it only means that religion unrelated to black liberation is  irrelevant."  (58-59) 
"... it is that whites are incapable of making any valid judgment  about human existence. The goal of black theology is the destruc¬tion  of everything white, so that blacks can be liberated from alien gods.   The God of black liberation will not be confused with a blood' thirsty  white idol. Black theology must show that the black God has nothing to  do with the God worshiped in white churches whose primary purpose is to  sanctify the racism of whites and to daub the wounds of blacks. Putting  new wine in new wineskins means that the black theology view of God has  nothing in common with those who prayed for an American victory in  Vietnam or who pray for a "cool" summer in the ghetto....  There is no  place in black theology for a colorless God in a society where human  beings suffer precisely because of their color. The black theologian  must reject any conception of God which stifles black self-determination  by picturing God as a God of all peoples. Either God is identified with  the oppressed to the point that their experience becomes God's  experience, or God is a God of racism....  Because God has made the goal  of blacks God's own goal, black theology believes that it is not only  appropriate but necessary to begin the doctrine of God with an  insistence on God's blackness."  (62-63) 
"White religionists are not capable of perceiving the blackness  of God, because their satanic whiteness is a denial of the very essence  of divinity. That is why whites are finding and will continue to find  the black experience a disturbing reality."  (64) 
"In contrast to this racist view of God, black theology proclaims  God's blackness. Those who want to know who God is and what God is  doing must know who black persons are and what they are doing. " (65) 
"God comes to us in God's blackness, which is wholly unlike  white¬ness. To receive God's revelation is to become black with God by  joining God in the work of liberation.... Becoming one of God's  disciples means rejecting whiteness and accepting themselves as they are  in all their physical blackness."  (66) 
"Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not  represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white  oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time  for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too  severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing  in the revolution.... What we need is the divine love as expressed in  black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors,  here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is  participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love."  (70) 
"God is black because God loves us; and God loves us because we  are black.  Righteousness is that side of God which expresses itself  through black liberation.  God makes black what humans have made  white.... Love is a refusal to accept whiteness."  (73-74) 
"If creation 'involves a bringing into existence of something  that did not exist before,' then to say God is creator means that my  being finds its source in God. I am black because God is black!  God as  creator is the ground of my blackness (being), the point of reference  for meaning and purpose in the universe.... Rather it is incumbent upon  me by the freedom granted by the creator to deny whiteness and affirm  blackness as the essence of God.  That is why it is necessary to speak  of the black revolution rather than reformation. The idea of reformation  suggests that there is still something 'good' in the system itself,  which needs only to be cleaned up a bit.  This is a false perception of  reality. The system is based on whiteness, and what is necessary is a  replacement of whiteness with blackness." (75-76) 
"Being white excludes them from the black community and thus  whatever concern they have for blacks will invariably work against black  freedom....  Certainly if whites expect to be able to say anything  relevant to the self-determination of the black community, it will be  necessary for them to destroy their whiteness by becoming members of an  oppressed community. Whites will be free only when they become new  persons—when their white being has passed away and they are created anew  in black being. When this happens, they are no longer white but free,  and thus capable of making decisions about the destiny of the black  community."  (97) 
- Born Again: "They [white people] would destroy themselves and be born again as beautiful black persons." (103);
- Sin: "This means that whites, despite their self-proclaimed religiousness, are rendered incapable of making valid judgments on the character of sin.... In a word, sin is whiteness..." (106, 108);
- Salvation: "Salvation, then, primarily has to do with earthly reality and the injustice inflicted on those who are helpless and poor. To see the salvation of God is to see this people rise up against its oppressors, demanding that justice become a reality now, not tomorrow." (128)
Wanted to Share This Post from A Blogger I Check Out Once-In-Awhile
(Yes, that is a Subway in the green zone)
Not that that, necessarily makes my Christmas more special than yours–I’m just saying…
I am finally at my duty station. It took a while to get here. Nothing in the Army is a straight line, there is always a double back, a sit and wait, an indefinite delay, a, “requires additional authorization”, a miscommunication, frago, SNAFU, FUB-well, you get the point. I sat in a helicopter hanger floor for 2 days, then after the helicopter got here I had to wait another day to hitch a ride to my duty station. Had the mission been a straight line I would have been there in 40 minutes not three days. Anyway, straight line or not I did get here safe and sound.
I’m with a small group which is good. There is Big Army, and there is Small Army. Big Army is about haircuts, and uniforms, and getting soldiers to chow on time. Small Army is about the mission–haircuts, and uniforms and chow be damned. The mission I’m supporting is more interesting than a reservist mechanic has a right to expect. For instance, did I go shooting yesterday with an firearms instructor from a his speed commando unit, taking me through a whole array of weapons I was not familiar with…?
Maybe.
Nothing in the Army is a straight line, but sometime the curves can be extremely satisfying.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Sam
Not A Peep About Patriot Act Passing (Where Is Code Pink?)
HotAir points out that during the Bush administration, the Left would go ape-shit over each time this act was passed and they would deride Bush for taking people's rights away. Did you hear anything about this time around? Not a peep.
The House had another opportunity for progressives to do a little piñata-beating on a bill last night — but curiously, it passed with little note or controversy. The extension of the Patriot Act sailed through the lower chamber with almost no one noticing, following a similarly quiet passage out of the Senate earlier in the week:The House of Representatives reauthorized the Patriot Act for one year Thursday.
The vote was 315-97 .
Many liberals in the House opposed the controversial act, saying it tramps Constitutional protections and civil liberties.During George Bush’s term in office, every renewal the Patriot Act became grand theater, with newspapers inveighing against the overreach of Bush and the danger to American liberty in the bill, which wasn’t an entirely vacuous argument. Protesters would fill streets, and reporters would demand positions from various members of Congress. So what happened this year?...
Andrew Breitbart, Hannah Giles, and Max Blumenthal = A Journalism "Scoop"
Max Blumenthal has an amazing thesis:  All conservatives and  Republicans are beneath contempt.  He also has an amazing line of work.   He is underwritten by various media organs to prove his thesis.
In a previous era, Blumenthal and said media organs (Salon,  Independent  Film Channel, Huffington  Post, etc.) were able to get away with this pathetic arrangement.    But now, we are on to Max, the spawn of Sid “Vicious” Blumenthal – he  who attempted to ruin Monica Lewinsky’s life by falsely  portraying her as Bill Clinton’s “stalker.”
The Blumenthal operation is now under the extremely  close scrutiny of a camelid named “Retracto.”
The movement formerly known as the “Tea-Baggers” (with their flip  cameras and new media skills) and various conservatives who have had  enough with the excessive Alinsky tactics used most egregiously by Max  and Sid but representative of main stream media’s odious  guilt-by-association, repeat-the-same-lie-until-it-sticks,  smear-any-conservative-as-racist-sexist-homophobic skill set, are now  fighting back.
If the last two weeks have not humiliated him enough — and this Huffington  Post rage-fest from yesterday with its title “Feeling the Hate at  CPAC 2010 With Andrew Breitbart, Hannah Giles and the Crazy Mob”  suggests they have not – then perhaps this coup de booger will  tell him that we say what we mean and we mean what we say.
Max gallivanted around CPAC looking for prey.  He was treated with  respect as he sought to make good and decent people look foolish on  camera.  He decided he would go after a 20-year-old girl, one Hannah  Giles.  And perhaps due to sexism or ageism he underestimated her  ability.  Max should have called Bertha Lewis before he went after this  young heroine.  Instead, he went to a gunfight with a knife – and a  dirty nose.
Ladies and gentlemen, the much awaited, “Max Blumenthal Picks a  Booger Out of His Nose at CPAC” video:
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Thursday, February 25, 2010
A Clarification On A Few Posts
I just wanted to add this caveat to the posts detailing some ideas infiltrating my old church as well as the church as a whole. I have met with the senior pastor from NorthPark, Dr. David White, and we are in agreement with the facts as they are. (Which are that the emergent movement is an attack on the essentials.) However, I believe we are also in agreement that a more positive path could have been chosen by myself in the delivery of these raw facts that we both agree are important. Airing the church's "dirty laundry" for the world to see is never the best route in that I had other options available to me. Soiling the gown of the bride of Christ (the church universal, not just NP) should never be the first option, and hopefully not the last either.
Even if my motives were pure as the driven snow (which a simple reading of Romans tells us they are not), the end result was not the best I could hope for. I am confident that the pastors involved in some of the statements and literature handed to me are in the process of taking to heart what I said... sour-pill and all. That is testament to a team of believers at NP that should impress even the most ardent critic... which sometimes is me!
So for any persons at NP that were hurt by my in-depth posts, especially BH, I apologize. My email is at the top of this page for any staff member to ask questions about this topic. I hope to be a positive resource in the future to any that do not understand the very important issues involved in this postmodern movement that needs both truth and grace to confront it. As you can tell, I'm a truth guy. 
I wish to say that while I have made the point that some staff need discipleship in the major doctrines that drive our faith, Pastor Dave exemplified an area that I need discipleship in. That is, how to talk things through in a loving graceful manner, as the Bible also prescribes.
I thought of an analogy as I drove away from our meeting. What I did is similar to a customer who frequented a restaurant for many years. One day he gets a miss-cooked plate of food. This customer "harrumphs" loudly in disgust and gets up and storms out. In the church however, we practice something different, which again, Dave exemplifies well. Instead of getting up and storming off, the customer (a cook himself) would get up and go into the kitchen and befriend the newer cook and show him how to do his trade well. This is also exemplified in a story told by a missionary and expanded on by an apologist:
When I was a Buddhist I felt like I was in the middle of a large lake. I was drowning and I didn't know how to swim. As I struggled to keep my head above water, I looked out towards the shore and saw Buddha walking up to the edge of the lake. I was going under for the third time, when suddenly Buddha began shouting out instructions to me, teaching me how to swim. Buddha shouted, "Kick your legs and paddle your arms." But then Buddha said, "Lou, you must make it to shore by yourself." As I desperately struggled to follow the instructions of Buddha, I looked out towards the shore again, but this time I saw Jesus Christ walking towards the edge of the lake. However, Jesus did not stop at the edge of the lake. Jesus dove into the lake and he swam out and rescued me! And once Jesus had brought me safely back to shore, then he taught me how to swim, so that I could go back and rescue others!You see, this is the key difference between Christianity and every other religion in the world: Christianity is not a religion! What are religions? Religions are about human attempts to make our lives right with God, through our good works, sacrifices, rituals, and money. However, Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is about God entering human history to graciously save men and women through His Son Jesus Christ. It is only by placing our faith in Jesus Christ and submitting to his Lordship that we will be saved.A relationship with God will never be found in any religion, because religions only offer swimming lessons to people drowning in the sea of sin. And it doesn't matter how sincere or devout you are in your religious faith and practice, because the sea of sin is eternally immense. The only hope for men and women drowning in the sea of sin is Jesus Christ. God entered human history in the person of Jesus Christ; he dove into the sea of sin in order to save desperate and drowning people. If you'll allow him to take you there, he'll hold you in his loving arms and bring you safely to shore. And after arriving safely to shore, then your swimming lessons begin, so that you can go back and rescue others!
So from this story that I have told to some over the years I now use with myself. We have the Example of examples willing to dive in and save us... but not only that, to disciple us in our deficiencies. This missed opportunity on my part to pass on in a small way what was modeled in the macro to me is yet one more indicator that this relationship I have with my Creator and His body (not only at NP but as the church universal) needs constant improving -- eg., truth with grace. I thank this same Creator for people like Pastor Dave that disciple this with action.
Again, any questions about this topic will be welcomed. I will go through and mellow out a few of the posts for the reason that this airing not be public for the world to see forever. Take note I am still no longer a member of this church, as, many of the staff are still in "process" on important doctrinal issues (this last sentence added 3-05-2010).
SeanG (AKA - Papa Giorgio)
If you are unaware of this movement, a good place to start is just by clicking one of these tabs:
"Emerging/Emergent Church" - "Thomas Merton" - "Rick Warren" - "Henry Nouwen" - "Richard Foster" - "Rob Bell" - "Shane Claiborne" - "Tony Jones" - "Brian Driscoll" - "Doug Pagitt"Thomas Merton Bio #3
          [O]ccultism [New Ageism] is defined as the science of  mystical evolution; it is the employment of the hidden (i.e., occult [secret]) mystical  faculties of man to discern the hidden reality of nature; i.e., to see God as the all-in-all.[1]
I am very  familiar with "freedom," in fact, when Luther wrote his commentary on Romans he was still a bit fresh to the  commentary scene. His commentary on Galatians however, fantastic. I also  enjoy Augustan, Aquinas, and many other Church Fathers and  apologists/theologians, I can even pick through Origin's stuff. Contemplative  prayer is not something that should be gleaned/shared or compared to this  history. You will see a recurring theme in meditative practices, they are  grasped onto by people in the Eastern religions and Roman Catholicism as another  way or work to reach God. In other  words, the typical Catholic has salvation wrapped up in many legalistic  traditions, and it doesn't surprise me that instead of looking to the  Reformational doctrines, they look to the East, who are likewise filled with  traditions and models to achieve emptiness of the mind. I will contend that the  "silence" Merton speaks of is not the "solitude" Jesus sought or the type  mentioned in Psalm 46:10, a favorite verse of the contemplatives.
Ken Kaisch,  an Episcopal priest and teacher of mystical prayer says in his book Finding God:
          Meditation is a process through which we quiet the mind and  the emotions and enter directly into the  experience of the Divine.... there is a deep connection between us... God is in each of us.[2]
However,  how does one get to this point of realizing "God is in each of us," or, in all things in the panentheistic  sense? What does this silence cause? Bishop Alan Jones in Reimaging Christianity, says the church  must head towards contemplative prayer,
          ...the life of contemplative prayer... Loved and in  communion with all things, the soul is born in and out of the secret silence of  God. This silence at the heart of mysticism is not only the meeting point of the  great traditions but also where all  hearts might meet.... But another ancient strand of Christianity teaches  that we are all caught up in the Divine Mystery we call God, that the Spirit is in everyone [not talking  about the Imago Dei], and that there are depths of interpretation yet to be  plumbed.... At cathedral we "break the bread" for those who follow the path of  the Buddha and walk the way of the Hindus.[3]
Here is a  longer quote from Bishop Jones from my chapter of a larger paper:
The  following quote from is from a book that I had read some quotes from in other  works and I just couldn’t believe what I was reading, so I bought it to see for  myself.  Here is what I found:
Who's Included?
Imagine  a great cathedral in Western Australia packed for the celebration of  Commonwealth Day. There's been a lot of preparation for the service, and tough  questions were asked about what “commonwealth” might mean in such a  multicultural society. Who should be included and how should the Church  celebrate the present reality that is Australia? What's the relationship of  Christianity to the other faiths represented in the Commonwealth?
John  Shepherd, the dean of St. George's Cathedral in Perth, Western Australia,  invited the abbot of the Bodhinyana Buddhist Monastery to preach at the service,  which was a Eucharist -- the central Christian sacrament. The abbot accepted in  full knowledge of this. Aboriginal dancers led the procession into the cathedral  and later led the offertory procession to the altar. During communion,  representatives of the Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, and Baha'i faiths read passages  from their sacred writings, and after communion an Aboriginal reader offered a  dream-time reflection. Was this Christian? The answer, as far as I'm concerned,  is “Of course.”
For  others, however, the service was an act of betrayal. Outside the cathedral two  people stood in protest, holding placards bearing biblical texts. One protester  briefly interrupted the abbot's address with a cry that they were all heading  for hell. The two lone objectors believed that the Christian witness was being  compromised.   And from their point of  view, they were right.  Either  Christianity is true or it isn’t.  If it  is, the other religions, however well meaning their adherents are, must be  false. Right? And it's hypocritical to think and act otherwise.
But  another ancient strand of Christianity teaches that we are all caught up in the  Divine Mystery we call God, that the Spirit is in everyone, and that there are  depths of interpretation yet to be plumbed. “In the beginning was the Word, and  the Word was with God, and the Word was God.... What has come into being in him  was life, and the life was the light of all people” [John 1:1-18; italics  mine].[4]
I  believe this idea of integrating faith is self-explanatory.  However, in case you missed it, at the end of  the quote Alan Jones inserted an Eastern pantheistic worldview into the Gospel  of John.  In other words, in order to  validate his point, Jones practiced eisegesis.  (“Exegesis is ‘letting the text speak for  itself rather than reading into the text what isn’t there,’ which is eisegesis.”)[5]  
In the book  the Contemplative Experience, Joseph  Chu-Cong speaks about Bernard of  Clairvaux:
- He realized that God permeates the whole of creation. His experience was that God is the "stone in the stones, the tree in the trees," and in the same way, the center point of his own soul. God resides at the heart of all that exists![6]
Thomas  Merton went so far as to say that without contemplative prayer "the Church  cannot fulfill her mission to transform and save mankind."[7] This is Gospel plus  something. Plus what? William Shannon quoting Merton explains what the goal of  contemplative practice is:
- The contemplative experience is neither a union of separate identities nor a fusion of them; on the contrary, separate identities disappear in the All Who is God.[8]
This is New  Age Eastern thought. It has its place in the Mind Sciences, not in conservative  Protestant bodies. Brennan Manning, author of Ragamuffin Gospel, wrote some  suggestions in his Signature of Jesus  on how to empty you mind:
- the first step in faith is to stop thinking about God at the  time of prayer.
- contemplative spirituality tends to emphasize the need for a  change in consciousness . . . we must come to see reality  differently.
- Choose a single, sacred word ... repeat the sacred word inwardly, slowly, and often.[9]
This is  exactly how Eastern gurus empty their mind. Richard Foster (one of the most  well-known Merton disciples) defines it thusly: "Christian meditation is an  attempt to empty the mind in order to fill it."[10] 
This isn’t  about whether one listens to Dio or P.O.D. -- has adopted a stance on  predestination, free-will, or nothing at all; it is about necromancy (spirit  guides), altered states of consciousness, astral projection, importing  pantheistic worldviews into a theistic one, and occultism.  For instance:
Willow Creek's Leadership Summit in August 2006 introduced Jim  Collins to the 70,000 participating Christian leaders. Since 1982 he has been a  disciple of New Ager Michael Ray. That year Collins took Ray's Creativity in  Business course, which “takes much of its inspiration from Eastern philosophy,  mysticism and meditation techniques” and promotes tapping into one's inner  wisdom. It describes an “inner person” called “your wisdom keeper or spirit  guide” that “can be with you in life” (“Willow Creek Leadership Summit Starts  Today,” Lighthouse Trails, Aug. 10,  2006). Collins wrote the foreword to Ray's 2005 book The Highest Goal: The  Secret that Sustains You in Every Minute, which claims that man is divine and  recommends Hindu mind emptying, meditation. The book quotes Hindu gurus Ram  Dass, Jiddu Krishnamurti, and Swami Shantananda. Yet Collins calls it “the  distillation of years of accumulated wisdom from a great teacher.” Following is  a quote from the book:
          I attended a meditation-intensive day at an ashram [Hindu  spiritual center] to support a friend. As I sat in meditation in what was for me  an unfamiliar environment, I suddenly felt and saw a bolt of lightning shoot up  from the base of my spine out the top of my head. It forced me to recognize  something great within me ... this awareness of my own divinity (Michael Ray, The Highest Goal, p. 28; the foreword is  by Jim Collins; quoted from “Willowcreek Leadership Summit Starts Today,” Aug,  10, 2006, Lighthouse Trails).[11]
Which is  why Thomas Keating says in his book Kundalini Energy and Christian  Spirituality (a book recommended by Brennan Manning) that,
          In order to guide persons having this experience [divine  oneness], Christian spiritual directors may need to dialogue with Eastern  teachers in order to get a fuller understanding.[12]
Which may  have been the catalyst for Merton saying that he "see[s] no contradiction  between Buddhism and Christianity. The future of Zen  is in the West. I intend to become as good a Buddhist as I  can."[13]  Just a reminder on Manning in my "guilt by proxy" post about Beth  Moore:
Moore  builds her case for contemplative in her frequent references to Brennan Manning  in her book, suggesting that his contribution to "our generation of believers  may be a gift without parallel" (p. 72). This is indeed a troubling statement  made by a Christian leader who so many women look to for direction and  instruction in their spiritual lives. Many of those women, in reading Moore's  comments about Manning and her quoting of him in the book may turn to the  writings of Manning for further insights. When they do, they will find that  Manning is a devout admirer of Beatrice Bruteau of The  School for Contemplation.
Bruteau believes that God lives in all creation, stating: "We  have realized ourselves as the Self that says only I AM, with no predicate following, not  'I am a this' or 'I have that quality.' Only unlimited, absolute I AM" (Lighthouse Trails). 
Ahem...  this is contemplative prayer, e.g., New Age realizations geared to eradicate  self, cause an eastern style silence/emptying of the mind, and deification in  some respect of man. This is not found in Biblical history but only the history  of panentheism picked up by the traditions that made Luther and Calvin and  others sick. Not only was Merton a typical "worship Mary and pray to the saints"  Catholic, he was a self-pronounced Buddhist who used Buddhist forms of  meditation and repackaged it into Christianese along with the "Desert Fathers"  use of the same Eastern practices. In fact he experienced, while meditating in  front of Buddha statues deep mystical experiences similar to his contemplation  on Christ.
While I  agree you can glean stuff from certain theologians, in all that I have read and  studied on Merton he would be lumped in with the anti-Christ's religion by the  Reformers. Which may be why there is talk about a new reformation or talk of the  "old one" being too rigid.
Fuller Seminary professors Eddie Gibbs and Ryan Bolger, in their  sympathetic study of the emerging church, say:
          Whereas the Reformation removed many rituals from the  worship service, postmodern worship restores these activities. The reformation  focused on the spoken word, while postmodern worship embraces the experienced  word. Thus, emerging church worshipers may respond with the sign of the cross,  more often associated with Catholic worship, and they receive the deep mystical  aspects of communion, candles, and incense. They may retrieve ancient rituals  and create new ones involving the body; they may dance in different venues" (Emerging Churches, p.  78).
Solomon's Porch in Minneapolis, led by Doug Pagitt, uses  labyrinths, celebrates Ash Wednesday by putting ashes on the forehead, practices  silent prayer and prayer dancing, makes the sign of the cross, and uses the  Stations of the Cross (Church  Re-imagined, pp. 86, 101, 102).[14]
The Boston  Globe mentions this new monastic  mysticism in one of their article:
         There is now a growing movement to revive evangelicalism by  reclaiming parts of Roman Catholic tradition--including monasticism. Some 100  groups that describe themselves as both evangelical and monastic have sprung up  in North America, according to Rutba House's [Jonathan] Wilson-Hartgrove. Many  have appeared within the past five years. Increasing numbers of evangelical  congregations have struck up friendships with Catholic monasteries, sending  church members to join the monks for spiritual retreats. St. John's Abbey, a  Benedictine monastery in Minnesota, now makes a point of including interested  evangelicals in its summer Monastic Institute ("The Unexpected Monks," The Boston Globe, Feb. 3, 2008).
If there is  any mistake about what the goal of contemplative prayer, Richard Foster sums it  up:
         To this question the old writers answer with one voice:  union with god. ... Bonaventure, a follower of Saint Francis, says that our  final goal is "union with god," which  is a pure relationship where we see  "nothing."[15]
The "old  writers" are old Catholic writers, but the Bible nowhere describes or encourages  such a practice. The believer's complete relationship with God is an  accomplished fact in Christ.
           As you  therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and built  up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding in it  with thanksgiving. Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty  deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of  the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of  the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all  principality and power. (Colossians 2:6-10 NKJV)
I agree  with that we need discernment, and can reject parts of peoples writings  that we know to be badly slanted (Luther's The Jews and their Lies for example).  This is exactly the point... Merton's input on prayer is wrong from the floor  up, and we as discerning Christians should consider its rejection, in light of  Protestant freedom and relation in Christ. I think all we can glean is that yes,  Christian prayer life needs improvement, along with everything else we associate  with human-hood. Do we really have to wade through this stuff to get that?
This silence Merton and others speak of, by-the-by, is an emptying of your mind, not solitude.
This silence Merton and others speak of, by-the-by, is an emptying of your mind, not solitude.
The  question is, since we are called to "prove all things and hold fast to that  which is good," have you [the person that has experienced and enjoyed through feelings] tested these  practices beyond the feeling that they  bring you closer to God or merely hearing about them. The consideration that  these practices have been given to us evangelicals via a Roman Catholic Buddhist whom himself received it through a long line of thinking relating to neo-platonic thinking should cause red-flags in our looking into this. 
[1] Richard Kirby, The Mission of Mysticism (London, UK: SPCK, 1979), 13. Quoted from: Ray Yungen, A Time of Departing: How Ancient Mystical Practices are Uniting Christians with the World Religions, 2nd ed. (Silverton, OR: Lighthouse Publishers, 2006), 14.
[2] Ken Kaisch, Finding God: A Handbook of Christian Meditation (New York, NY: Paulist Press, 1994), 283.
[3] Alan Jones, Reimaging Christianity: Reconnect Your Spirit Without Disconnecting Your Mind (Hoboke, NJ: John Wiley & Sone Inc., 2005), 174, 89.  This quote comes from the book as well:
I won't allow those who insist on a literal interpretations of these myths and doctrines to deprive me of my devotion to her. Was she literally a virgin: I don't know. I do know that in the old stories and commentaries about her, virginity was often a code word for absolute dedication. Christ, in this regard, was even referred to as the archvirgin. But much of the emphasis on virginity arose from a negative and destructive view of sexuality. So I doubt very much whether Mary was literally a virgin, but I know many who sincerely believe that she was. 
[4] Ibid., 88-89.
[5] Roy B. Zuck, Basic Bible Interpretation: A Practical Guide to Discovering Biblical Truth (Colorado Springs, CO: Victor, 1991), 47.
[6] Joseph Chu-Cong, The Contemplative Experience (New York, NY: Crossroads Publishing Company, 1999), 3. Quoted in: Ray Yungen, A Time of Departing, 177-178.
[7] Thomas Merton, Contemplative Prayer (New York, NY: Image Books; Doubleday, 1996), 116.
[8] Brother Patrick Hart, ed., The Message of Thomas Merton (Kalamazoo, MI: Cistercian Publications, 1981), 200.
[9] Brennan Manning, The Signature of Jesus (Sisters, OR: Multnomag, 1996), 212, 216, 218.
[10] Richard J. Foster, Celebration of Discipline: The Path to Spiritual Growth (New York, NY: Harper San Francisco, 1978), 15.
[11] David Cloud, Contemplative Mysticism, 54-55 (emphasis added).  This is interesting because in Tantric Hiduism, this is always pictured as a serpent coiled around the adherent’s spine:  
kundalini (koon-duh-lee'nee; Skt., “coiled one”), in Hindu and Buddhist Tantrism, the latent and highly potent spiritual energy resting at the base of the spine. Often depicted as a serpent sleeping coiled three and a half times around a Shiva linga in the muladhara, or base chakra (energy vortex), this power (shakti) is awakened by the initiatory power of the guru (spiritual leader) and is said to move upward “like lightning” through the various chakras to reunion with Shiva at the top of the head. The yogic uncoiling of this energy produces the transformative, meditational states of tantric mysticism. See also chakras; Tantra.
Jonathan Z. Smith, ed., The HarperCollins Dictionary of Religion (San Francisco, CA: Harper San Francisco, 1995), cf. kundalini, 648 (emphasis added).  Criticism isn’t always bad, and it is something demanded of us in Scripture (1 Thess 5:21), and is even called “noble” (Acts 17:11).  I will again display the ending to David Cloud’s summary of Rick Warren, adapted just enough to be fit to the many church’s that are experiencing the same thing:
Our pastors do not believe that all religions worship the same God or that man is God, but their enthusiasm for contemplative practices and lust for the newest thing have brought them and our parishioners into close association with those who do. They are promoting the same type of "spiritual" practices that are nurturing the New Age and their thinking is being corrupted by this illicit association. Evangelicals who are reading and recommending books by mystics would be wise to take heed to this warning.
[12] Thomas Keating, Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality by Philip St. Romain (New York, NY: The Crossroad Publishing Company, 1991), Foreword. 
[13] Brother Patrick Hart, ed., The Message of Thomas Merton (Kalamazoo, MI: Cistercian Publications, 1981), 88.
[14] David Cloud, Contemplative Mysticism: A Powerful Ecumenical Bond (Port Huron, MI: Way of Life Literature, 2008), 28.
[15] Richard Foster, Prayer: Finding The Heart's True Home (New York, NY: Harper Collins, 1992), 159. 
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