Showing posts with label Doug Pagitt. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Doug Pagitt. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 02, 2010

Two Important Interviews (Chris Rosebrough & Doug Pagitt), and one Sermon by Phil Johnson on Postmodern Errors -- Lots Of Meat Here

This first audio selection comes from and interview of Doug Pagitt by Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio on his radio show, Fighting for the Faith. lots of Emergent history here for the researcher. (65-Minutes)






This second audio selection is almost a reversal of roles. Chris Rosebrough appears on Doug Pagitt's radio show. There is some commentary added by Chris throughout... very enlightening. (93-Minutes)

 

This third audio selection changes gears a bit. It is a sermon by Phil Johnson of the PyroManiacs about the errors found in the "postmodern" church and how there are false dichotomies between "pre-modern," "modern," and "postmodern." A must listen to sermon by those interested in the Emergent church and how to respond. (67-Minutes)



 

Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Warren & Hybels Emergent Recall -- Very Important (Imported) Post from Extreme Theology -- Interview with Doug Pagitt

...McLaren has finally admitted that those of us who’ve been saying that he denies the fall of man, hell, Christ’s penal substitutionary atonement, the inerrancy and authority of scripture and Christ’s return in glory to judge both the living and the dead were right all along...







Rick Warren, Bob Buford and Bill Hybels are the Druckerite “trinity”. All three of these men were personally mentored by the late business guru Peter Drucker and these three men more than any others are responsible for innovating the church by purposely changing congregations from a pastoral leadership model to a CEO / Innovative Change Agent leadership model. All of these innovations were strategically crafted under the careful eye of Peter Drucker. And all of these innovations were incubated, introduced and injected into the church through the coordinated efforts of Drucker’s disciples through their different but intimately connected organizations; Leadership Network, the Purpose Driven Network and the Willow Creek Association.

What many people don’t realize is that the Emerging Church is a product created by and promoted by the Druckerites.

If you don’t believe me then it is time for you to listen to or re-listen to my interview with Doug Pagitt regarding the genesis of the Emerging Church. Pagitt provides us with an expert insiders look at how the Emerging Church came into being and got off of the ground. What you will discover is that without the Druckerites there may have never been an ‘emerging church’. The Druckerites formed, bankrolled and promoted the Emerging Church much the same way a music marketing company might form and promote a boy band like the Backstreet Boys or N Sync. 

Here’s the interview.


After listening to Pagitt’s retelling of the story of the emergence of the Emerging Church is it any wonder then why Druckerites like Rick Warren and Bob Buford lent their support and credibility to the Emerging Church? They were responsible for creating it.

Take a look at who endorsed Dan Kimball’s 2003 book The Emerging Church. In that list you will see both Druckerites as well as out right Emergent Heretics all singing the praises of Kimball’s book.  In fact, Rick Warren AND Emergent Apostate Brian McLaren both wrote the forward to the book.



....Read It All Here

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