Nothing Is Sacred
Bored and Starting to Feel A little Better
There are a few things I take issue with here, but they are minor. Every fossil find involves a river or a local flood. I just love it as a Young Earth Creationist (YEC) to here this because it is at every description of multiple fossil finds. In fact, all the fossils found are in flood deposits. Hmmm, could it be, well now… let’s see… could it be – The Flood! At any rate, I am going to post two small blurbs I wrote on matter dealing with dinosaurs. Enjoy:
Dinosaurs and the Bible?
Lets start this paper out by playing a game. The game is “Pin the Tail on the Donkey.” Except we don’t have a donkey, but I’m sure you can figure it out.
Of course, you are probably wondering why I am displaying these comical pictures, and what, if anything these pictures have to do with dinosaurs and the Bible! Let me explain. The ancient record of a man named Job is found in the Bible. It goes back to a time over 2,000 years before Christ. The fascinating story of Job is one of the oldest pieces of literature on earth. It was written down just a few hundred years after the flood of Noah’s time.
Now, I know you are thinking to yourself, “Flood!? Noah!? Bible!? Dinosaurs and man co-existing is outrages by evolutionary terms, I mean, dinosaurs died out at least 64 million years ago! And man didn’t show up on the evolutionary scene till about 1 to 4 million years ago (depending on what evolutionary tree you accept).” Yes, I know this sounds incredible, but some amazing items from history and archaeology are mounting the evidence against this belief that man and dino are separated by massive amounts of time and geological layers. Unfortunately, this particular paper does not deal with this topic of history and archaeology for proving the co-existence of dino and man.
This writing only deals with the Bible’s take on dino and man. So lets get to it. In the 40th chapter of Job’s account, we see the record of the Creator Himself speaking to job. He is drawing Job’s attention to one of the wonders of the creation. Let’s read it.
“Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you…” (verse 15)
Behemoth in the Hebrew simply means large beast. Most bibles have a marginal note by this verse explaining that this creature was most likely an elephant or hippopotamus (half of the above drawings explained!). God is saying to Job, “take a good look at this creature. I am going to demonstrate something to you.”
“He eats Grass like an ox.” (Verse 15)
The animal must be a vegetarian, but it’s likely larger than an ox.
“See now, the strength is in his hips [or loins].” (Verse 16)
This critter must have powerful legs. So it could be an elephant.
“His power is in his stomach muscles.” (Verse 16)
He apparently has a massive mid-section. If that was all we had to go on we could rightly assume Job may very well be looking at a hippo. But let’s read on.
“He moves his tail like a cedar.” (Verse 17)
Now we have a problem (and the answer to the drawings above). Have you noticed something distinctive about cedar trees? They are big aren’t they? Now have you seen a tail of an elephant or a hippo? It doesn’t seem that a cedar tree is a very appropriate analogy does it. Let’s re-read – and finish – the verses of study.
Genus Name: Seismosaurus ("earth shaker lizard")
Type Species: * S. hallorum (Gillette, 1991)
Length: about 120 feet (37 meters)
Weight: 30-70 tons
Time: 155-145 million years ago (Late Jurassic) [Debatable]
Diet: plant-eater (herbivore)
Job 40: 15-24 (KJV)
Fresh dinosaur bones found?
Most people think that all known dinosaur bones are fossils, and that this proves dinosaurs died out millions of years ago. Yet “fresh”, unfossilized, dinosaur bones have been found, suggesting that dinosaurs might have lived recently.
In another case, a young Inuit (Canadian Eskimo) who was working with scientists from
Good enough to compare with chicken!
The journal Science on December 24, 1993 (pages 2020–2023) reported on the amazing preservation of the bones of a young duckbill dinosaur found in
Claudia Barreto and others said, “In the dinosaur specimens, the same high degree of structural resolution can be seen as in modern specimens.” Even the calcium and phosphorus ratios were comparable. In other words, these appeared to be fresh bones, not fossilized — even though they are claimed to be more than 70 million years old.
Such findings cast serious doubt on the millions of years claimed for the dinosaurs.
Blood Cells & Protein
By using immunological tests, Gerard Muyzer of
Not only dino bones!
Fresh-looking organic remains are not restricted to dinosaur bones. A “frozen forest” found on
Some interesting burial stones have been found for many, many years down in
It will be interesting to see if we – as we find more preserved fossil skeletons of these giant beasts – if they were indeed able to feed their young in this way. I think we will find proof of such things soon. There is already scientific discussion that these beasts were warm blooded and not reptiles. If memory serves me there is talk of four-chambered hearts in these giant animals. At any rate, the
Here is a large rock with drawing on all sides:
This is a hammer encrusted with Cretaceous rock:
There is just sooo much to show and discuss on this issue, but you should watch these videos if you have the time to see “for yourself”, my favorite is the trip this guy went on for many purposes (history, knowledge, etc) but one in the back of his mind was apparently confirmation of a YEC’s photo or video so he could in person verify it. HOW FUN!
A decent presentation of archaeological evidences connecting man and dino’s coexistence (27 minutes)
A blurb from Ken Ham and others on the evidence for man coexisting with dinosaurs (9-minutes).
Interview of Michael Cremo by a radio conspiracy guy (Coast to Coast Radio Show), I do not agree wioth some of the UFO conclusions the radio host tries to pull from this evidence. Nor do I agree with Michael Cremo that mankind is 2-billion years old. I want the listener to zero in just on the evidence and the discussion about all the evidene found that because of biases were never discussed widely. (10-minutes long)
A more biblically based presentation of Dinosaurs in the Bible as well as archaeological proofs (51 minutes)
In case you didn’t know, Rush is matching the funds and the whole thing is being given to a military family fund.
The bidder may be a Liberal who might default on the purchase and then expect the government to come in with subsidies to bail him or her out.
You Have Got To Be Kidding?
This photo above has got to be one of the most upsetting thing in a while I have seen, well, one of the two most upsetting news items this week. In case you can’t see it, it is an elderly nun being frisked by an Islamic girl in a full veil!
I am sorry, but did an elderly nun kill these children’s families and burn their churches while beating and rapping them?
No! They were young Muslim men with veiled women at home. Was this young girl raped by an elderly nun and then hanged because she was “caught” alone with this nun (by “caught” I mean she told authorities what had happened thinking justice would befall her attacker)?
No! She was raped by a young Islamic man and then sentenced to death by an Islamic judge. Was this man beaten, tortured while chained to a wall being burned and drilled into with power tools by an elderly nun?
No! This man and others were tortured by young Islamic men who read their Quran daily. Are these young boys being shown how to kill Jews by elderly nuns who have a vast knowledge of military weapons and the know-how to make suicide belts?
No! They were young Islamic men and veiled women that are teaching their kids how to murder in the name of Allah! Are these nuns wanting to behead people in
No! They are young Islamic men and veiled women!
Elderly nuns should not have to be frisked until Caucasian elderly nuns start hijacking airplanes and flying them into buildings! The photo of a nun being frisked by an extremist Muslim (yes, someone who wears an entire mask over their face is extreme) makes me not only upset, but sad… because Americans are so Politically Correct and naïve as to think that this type of security will stop another 9/11!
That’s crazy! While Cox and Forkum can draw such a powerful statement about “never again,” I am sorry to say, “again.”
There Is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind
(Antony Flew’s First Book Since Becoming a Theist)
A far cry from these days:
One of the most ardent atheists explains why he has become a theist, not a Christian, but an Aristotelian theist. The book is due out on October 23rd, and should be a must read for all Christians. I will include at the bottom of this blog a debate Dr. Antony Flew had with Dr. Gary Habermas on the issue of the resurrection, that likewise is a must watch for both the Christian and the skeptic. I am looking forward to reading this book soon!
From the Book Description
A great article is one where Gary Habermas interviews of Antony Flew in Philosophia Christi (PDF). This also is a must read for the person trying to find out more on why Antony Flew came to the logical conclusion he did based on evidence alone.
This is taken from that PDF document:
Another interview that is worth watching and making notes of is the following one by Lee Stroebel. A philosophy 101 student can get a lot out of this interview. Deism just doesn’t fit what Flew describes. In fact, most deists do not realize what they are saying when they say “God created the first “bang” and “set up natural laws” that have resulted in our known universe with conscious beings as “creations” pinnacle.
Lee Stroebel Interview with
I blogged on this previously, but it was a small note on a larger issue that is very important, which is – that there exists enough evidence for even the most ardent skeptic to accept the logical/rational belief that God does truly exist! Below is a photo of Antony Flew shaking hands with the father of the modern Intelligent Design movement, Dr. Phillip Johnson. Philip Johnson has authored or edited the following books:
Total Truth: Liberating Christianity from Its Cultural Captivity (Study Guide Edition)
To the other side of Antony Flew in the above photo is Stephen Meyer, he has authored or edited the following books:
Dr. Gary Habermas authored the following books:
So you can see the type of people that have influenced Dr. Flew over the years via debates, becoming friends with Dr. Habermas, and the like. In fact, let me post the entire debate between Habermas and Flew on the Resurrection of Jesus.
A Debate on Deism
Ahhh, Countess, what an honor it is that we meet again. Your name evokes wild pictures of moonlit nights from the pages of the Scarlet Pimpernel. I will indulge a further response from you, as your last post seemed contradictory. My question was simple, it was:
Are miracles – from the deist standpoint – possible?
You responded in kind that:
“No, miracles would, logically, not be possible. In a straight-line explanation, God created the universe, and the laws of the universe are the boundaries of the possible. In theory, God could, as the creator of the universe, violate those laws; however, there is no evidence that he has ever done this.”
I need to clarify; I didn’t ask “if miracles were actual” (i.e., miracles have actually occurred). I simply asked if they are possible. Let me give some more ways of looking at it, since you brought up the fact of actuality, then I will return to your statement that I chose to display above.
I believe – reading your opening statement above – that you would fall under category B. I say this because you even admitted that God could, theoretically, “violate” these laws. This seems an anathema to deists, who view these laws of nature as not descriptive, but prescriptive. Let me quote C. S. Lewis on this matter for the sake of clarity in defining what these laws of nature do, and don’t do:
This is what I have come across in deism, is a belief that if God would “violate” (I am highlighting that word for a reason) His laws of nature that He set up, we would live in a “lawless and unsystematic universe” (to quote Lewis). However, let us continue with his remarks:
This is the case with deism. They presuppose that God created “Nature to be the whole of reality.” a miracle doesn’t “violate” any law, simply, that law will predict what should happen once a miracle event happened.
I got a wee bit ahead of myself here, but I wanted to make sure that you understood that a proper understanding of the laws of Nature in no way restrict miracles, and that any further use of violate by me (and you) should encapsulate this definition. And all I was asking at this point was if miracles were possible. As one writer wrote of Deism:
I will conclude with a mock conversation from the book Answers for Atheists, Agnostics, and Other Thoughtful Skeptics: Dialogues About Christian Faith and Life. This conclusion is only meant to elucidate in laymen’s terms what C. S. Lewis has already said. Enjoy:
See Countess, you -- by default -- believe something to be outside the universe, and that this God actually did the greatest miracle of all time… that is, “creating the universe with laws and motion with mankind as its goal.” If that isn’t a miracle, then what is?